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Programmers and Bees

  • Jul. 29th, 2004 at 2:18 AM
side-beard-flip
Orson Scott Card's classic parable about nurturing coders and why software companies eventually die:

Here's the secret that every successful software company is based on: You can domesticate programmers the way beekeepers tame bees. You can't exactly communicate with them, but you can get them to swarm in one place and when they're not looking, you can carry off the honey. You keep these bees from stinging by paying them money. More money than they know what to do with. But that's less than you might think. You see, all these programmers keep hearing their fathers' voices in their heads saying "When are you going to join the real world?" All you have to pay them is enough money that they can answer (also in their heads) "Geez, Dad, I'm making more than you." On average, this is cheap.
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[info]achanchinou wrote:
Jul. 29th, 2004 02:52 am (UTC)
Randall and I found that a relevant book (which is atually a collection of essays) is Paul Graham's Hackers and Painters.

"Different kinds of work have different time quanta. Someone proofreading a manuscript could probably be interrupted every fifteen minutes with little loss of productivity. But the time quantum for hacking is very long: it might take an hour just to load a problem into your head. So the cost of having someone from personnel call you about a form you forgot to fill out can be huge. This is why hackers give you such a baleful stare as they turn from their screen to answer your question. Inside their heads a giant house of cards is tottering. The mere possibility of being interrupted deters hackers from starting hard projects. This is why they tend to work late at night [...]"

I haven't completed it yet, Randall has. I'm hoping that perhaps I'll find some kind of relevant knowledge in it to make my family realize that interrupting me is the second worst thing in the world.
(no subject) - [info] - Jul. 29th, 2004 07:54 am (UTC)
[info]maustin wrote:
Jul. 29th, 2004 09:56 am (UTC)
ha
I want to work for you :) 20 sided dice?? See, you understand how cheap programmers really are.

"Even though we pay you $50 per hour, could you stay an extra 10 hrs for free tonight? I'll bring you a $10 pizza."

"Pizza!!! Awesome!"

But seriously.. he could be talking about the fall of Microsoft here. This is exactly how things are going, and it's sad to see the hallmark of 'how to treat programmers right' fall to the bean counters.

New microsoft:
"Even though we pay you $50 per hour, could you stay an extra 10 hrs for free tonight? I'll leave the cafeteria open longer so you can go buy dinner."

Ah well :) I suppose things change.

-Michael
[info]patrissimo wrote:
Jul. 29th, 2004 12:46 pm (UTC)
Re: ha
I figured microsoft might be immune, since the big boss is a nerd rather than a manager. Guess not.
[info]maustin wrote:
Jul. 29th, 2004 04:43 pm (UTC)
Well- it was until Bill stepped down during all the antitrust stuff and let Ballmer run things.
[info]its_just_me wrote:
Jul. 29th, 2004 10:15 am (UTC)
I used to be a die hard Orson Scott Card fan until I learned his opinions on homosexuality, blacks, jews etc. He's an evil bastard beyond anything I was able to think possible for someone who wrote such unifying books.
[info]alphistia wrote:
Jul. 29th, 2004 02:32 pm (UTC)
Mormon cultist
Orson Scott Card might be a good sci-fi writer, but he is primarily a propagandist for the Mormons. His attacks on gays are nasty in the extreme. He is gratuitously offensive and a total jerk. Not even most Mormons can match him for his homophobia.
[info]iainuki wrote:
Jul. 29th, 2004 02:44 pm (UTC)
Re: Mormon cultist
The dichotomy between Orson Scott Card's fiction writing and his real-world opinions continues to amaze me. A lot of the stuff he's written is both weird and open-minded. Though, I have noticed a tendency for the latter to leak into the former of late: Enchantment had some issues about the Judaism of some of the main characters.
[info]its_just_me wrote:
Jul. 29th, 2004 04:36 pm (UTC)
Re: Mormon cultist
The article that shattered my ideal hero and sent me into a deep depression for days

http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2004-02-15-1.html

More of his drivil can be seen in rhinotimes.com
[info]dwagoner wrote:
Jul. 29th, 2004 06:03 pm (UTC)
Re: Mormon cultist
*wham* [The sound of my jaw hitting the floor]

Wow was that an eye-opener......

Thanks.

Ummmm....

I think.....
[info]its_just_me wrote:
Jul. 30th, 2004 01:35 am (UTC)
Re: Mormon cultist
When they said he wrote sceince FICTION, I never imagined his books views were the fiction part (in his eyes)
(no subject) - [info]clairebaxter - Jul. 30th, 2004 06:26 pm (UTC)
[info]its_just_me wrote:
Jul. 30th, 2004 08:05 pm (UTC)
I've read all but Crystal City. I can't separate the fiction from the man. I idolized him for most of my life. Having learned the truth about him just seeing his name makes it all a lie. It's more than just a book when it represents a false belief.
[info]clairebaxter wrote:
Jul. 30th, 2004 09:20 pm (UTC)
Yeah, that'd be hard. I think I read Maps in a Mirror with it's homosexual bashing bit in it very soon after I was first introduced to his books, possibly the first book I read after the Ender's Game books, such as they were at the time. So I have an easier time separating some of his poisonous beliefs from his healthier ones. And no, they aren't just books. But I think that most of the books manage to leave out the hatred and poison, and just have a lot of healthier Mormon happiness about families ("Wow, I so want to get married and have kids! That would be the best thing ever!").
It's hard when your idol lets you down though. Sorry about that. Don't tell Card he was your idol; he'd tell you about false idols and a bit more than you wanted to hear about his religion.
[info]clairebaxter wrote:
Jul. 30th, 2004 06:28 pm (UTC)
Re: Mormon cultist
I love some Orson Scott Card fiction. I would never read his essays, having stumbled across a wee bit of one once. I think it's best to seperate his good books from his beliefs, to keep enjoying the books. I mostly get annoyed when he lets homosexuals creep into his fiction -- I'd rather he kept them out, since he obviously has no clue. (For example, whatever that awful latest Shadow's Game in Love book was, where everyone wants to get married and have babies, even the old gay man who has had a happy gay life.)
But do read Maps in a Mirror (please skip the essay on page 126, titled "Closing the Timelid", where he lets his hatred out) and Ender's Game and Pastwatch (his morals come across, but in a people doing good way, not hating everyone kinda way). They really are too good to miss.
[info]amoken wrote:
Jul. 29th, 2004 11:16 am (UTC)
I don't think there's any chance I'll ever make more than my father. Data storage expertise at his level will always be worth a larger six figure sum than I imagine myself pursuing. However, I also probably will not be a slave to my pager or have to fly far away at a day's notice. Not a bad tradeoff.

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